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  • * WHAT’S GOING ON?

    Posted on November 3rd, 2018 Becky 23 comments

    START TODAY, STEDMAN!

         The most notable addition to the budget was funding for Parabon NanoLabs, the DNA lab which helped identify a suspect in the Christy Mirack murder. District Attorney Craig Stedman said there are other cases for which they would like to utilize Parabon’s services.
    From the LNP story, “6 groups collectively request over $66 million at second 2019 Lancaster County budget meeting,” (click here).   
    *   Today would have been Christy Mirack’s fifty-first birthday. Stedman needs to start solving some of these unsolved murders and he can start today. I’m sure the DA’s office can find the money!
         And it doesn’t take Parabon to determine if Juanita Chevalier, killed in 1995, and Roxanne Myers, killed in 1998, had the same killer. The state police lab could determine that in less than two weeks! Why don’t we have an answer?
          From this site on June 27, 2018 (click here for the original):  
     

     

    AN EXORBITANT COST

         The below email was received yesterday. I am so sorry for your loss and had no idea the amount of money LNP charges. The link to her obituary online is here but I honestly don’t know if you can read it without a subscription to LNP. Thank you for writing.

    Dear Ms. Holzinger,  

    Emily Mara Barton

          I realize that, in the larger scheme of things, the cost of obituaries is probably not a priority, considering all of the local political issues that are currently in the news.  Our daughter committed suicide on October 4th and died on October 7th. She suffered for 10 years from anorexia – a disease that very few people understand. As a family, we wanted to be honest in her obituary, so we noted her 10 year fight and the resulting suicide.  As any family desires, we wanted to tell her story of 29 years and so we wrote as brief a synopsis of her short life as possible. (I am sure you can read it in the Friday paper dated October 12)  Our bill for her obituary was almost $900.00. We had the ability to pay but what about all of those people who want their loved ones recognized and can’t afford these exorbitant costs.    What’s going on? 

         Thank you for anything you can do to make the general public aware of this.
    Sincerely
    Nancy C. Barton
     

    23 responses to “* WHAT’S GOING ON?”

    1. The cost of obituaries has skyrocketed in all newspapers. In the old days, it wasn’t and usually included in funeral cost from funeral homes.

      Since rates were raised, people became aware because they weren’t going to absorb the costs. Funeral directors have to itemize too.

      If the survivors do it on their own, they learn rather quickly.

      It’s not just the LNP.

    2. PS obits don’t seem to need a subscription

    3. When my father died in 2011 the price for the obit was $500.00 if I remember correctly. I too was surprised as one doesn’t know until it happens and in those times you have other things on your mind so you just pay. It would be an act of Goodwill for LNP to publish obits for free and deduct the value of the print space from income as a public service to the community.

    4. Obits were a function of Editorial for decades. Newspapers had Obit writers. Essentially the more “important” you were the bigger the Obit. “Paid Obits” obviously monetize valuable space but they also allow families to tell a story without distinction of how well known their loved one was. It is, or at least was, my understanding that there is still a basic Obit that comes at no additional cost. It is industry wide. No matter what you think of LNP you have to agree that it would make zero sense to just allow people to submit pages of information to have LNP print with no means of off setting the cost.

    5. My mother-in-law passed in October. The funeral director said there was a minimum charge of a few hundred dollars even if it was a one lined sentence. I forget the exact amount. He suggested we could post one on their website for no charge.

    6. There really should be NO cost to readers with the amount of money LNP receiev4es in advertising, obits, taxpayer-supported CRIZ money, etc., etc., etc.

    7. They charge for obituaries? Outrageous! Real nwspapers do that as a SERVICE and actually pay a salary for an obituary writer! That is obscene! In addition, the obituary the family paid LNP 900.00 for them is distributed to Legacy. com and other sites. Not bad for the family and great for LNP, who gets paid to allow that or gets it own free publicity..i.e. (This article first appeared in the LPOS paper…). You can betit is a winwinwin for LNP. Never even heard of such a thing. Im curious if family wrote the obit,too. Or do you have to PAY to have one of those idiots do it. Dont buy the advertising space page layout bs either. It is newspaper….not broadcasting. The amount of “advertising space” is unlimited knowing no boundaries of space and time.

    8. $900 is a lot of money. I spend less than that to heat my house during winter.

    9. Anon, as I stated in my previous post, Paid Obits are increasingly common. Whether you like it or not LNP is not in the wrong here.

    10. $900.00?! Thats insane! As much money as they robbed every taxpayer they ought to be ashamed. No mercy whatsoever smh

    11. Interested: Whether I “like it or not” is irrelevant and does NOT dictate whether or not LNP is or isn’t in the wrong. Neither does the fact it is “increasingly common”. As my post states, it is a way to gouge money that the paper is free to CHOOSE to do…or NOT do. It is unnecesary – except to their bottom line. It is alll about the money – nothing else.

    12. Anonymous, you are correct in your assertions that it is their choice and it produces revenue. It’s also a practical business decision. Furthermore to my initial point, it gives families the ability to express themselves where in the past obits were primarily dictated by the subjective level of importance and stature of the deceased.

    13. Families do not need to pay LNP for the “ability to express themselves”. That is just, plain crazy. And a good reporter would have seen the news value in that poor mother’s story and done an article on it for FREE to HELP others. Do you understand, yet?

    14. I understand that this particular story is heart wrenching. A true tragedy that certainly could have been reported on in an effort to educate others while celebrating her life. I do get that. But in the overall scheme of things LNP could not and should not give away unlimited space for obituaries. I have had family members pass away and had zero issue paying for the requisite space. I do understand that every family has budgets and need to be mindful. I also know the space for obits is billed at a much lower rate than ads. In the end it is a practical business decision.

    15. “I had zero issue paying for the requisite space.” And there, ladies and gentlemen, you have it. I remember “interested” saying he / she was part of the Hamilton club crowd.Seems that single quote sums up your world view on all issues. “I got mine, screw you losers.” Even when born on third base, they think they hit a triple. Pot luck at church this Wednesday, y’all come on down.

    16. WTF, I also stated that I know everyone varies in their economic situation. Per the “Hamilton Club” reference, that was made some time ago. I am flattered you recall that. And do not forget, LCC as well. My entire point here, and has always been when commenting on this site, is to interject facts and reason where sometimes they are lacking. Becky covers a great deal of issues and from time to time does not have, in my opinion, all the facts or proper perspective. I always appreciate her posting my comments. I was born on third base but like so many others have had challenges in my life. I have never atracked someone here in an effort to prove my point. I am sorry if my good fortune at birth upsets you or offends you. However, whatever you think of my situation does not change facts. I happen to think I am correct in this matter. It is simply good business.

    17. WTF and Interested: I sort of have a different perspective because I was born on the wrong side of the Lancaster tracks and then married into a prominent family with Hamilton Club and LCC memberships. I’m a pretty take no prisoners kind of person when it came to voicing my opinion to inlaws etc. And I always felt and I know that they appreciated my opinions and gave them a different slant sometimes on how to look at things.

      So, about these obits and the seemingly exorbitant prices they charge, I won’t even tell you how much one of my inlaws obits cost. Well over a thousand dollars. And the LNP charges the Hamilton Club and LCC crowd the same amount of money that they charge everyone else. In that respect it is an even playing field when it comes to what people are charged. Sure, one group might have more money than the other and percentage wise it’s a smaller kick in the wallet to the little guys.

      My original response to this was that it’s not just the LNP that does this. It’s all newspapers from what I have gathered.

      Personally, I like this relatively new way of printing obits. People pretty much get free reign over what is published. As a result we have seen some really funny, really poignant, really sad and some downright eccentric obits being published whereas in the old days that never happened.

      As for newspaper obits, social media has pretty much negated the need for newspaper obits. Your funeral parlor will print a lengthy obit on their website and you can just put “see such and such funeral home website” for putting out a lengthy one. Also, the LNP reports ALL deaths in their list that they print I do believe and I don’t think that costs a dime.

      Well, there’s my two cents. There is ALWAYS a workaround. It’s difficult at times of bereavement to think straight for sure. That’s what a lot of newspapers and funeral homes etc. bank on. But there are alternatives.

    18. Interested, thank you.

    19. Im with WTF, ANON, ANONYMOUS.I remember that h.c. comment too.

    20. My apologies.
      Huh?, thank you.

    21. I get it interested. I have never envied anyone anything. Most are content with their station in life. Walking a Mike in another’s shoes requires empathy and objectivity, which seems sometimes lacking. We’re it a more common trait I think folks would get along much better and the world, overall, would be a happier place. We’re all guilty at one point or another in our lives of viewing the world through our own lens and life experiences. Being better than your former self is a useful exercise for us all. Peace man.

    22. WTF?, I agree entirely with you statement. I certainly am guilty of applying my logic onto others from time to time (although typically I am right 🙂 ). Be well, my friend.

    23. WTF…empathy and objectivity? Arent you the poster who said a woman convicted of trespassing for mowing a neighbors lawn should have been shot instead and was wasting taxpayer money for appealing? Unless you know all the facts, and even if you did, sounds more like a bully than an empathetic objectified opinion. Just sayin…

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